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Hi SteveO: Do you agree with me that it is ironic that Nick Masino wanted to "protect" the citizens of Suwanee from the "damage" that would be done by having a school in their neighborhood, but he and the Gwinnett Chamber of Commerce support the privatization of Briscoe Field which will bring 737s into Lawrenceville? Apparently Nick thinks Suwanee should be protected from a school, but he thinks the residents of Lawrenceville should shut up and accept a commercial airport in their backyard, and the subsequent damage to property values and their quality of life, because it is good for the Chamber's economic development plans. Does this make sense to you?
Jim Regan has been very honest about his opposition to passenger jet service at Briscoe. As far as I can tell, his objections have been based upon fact. I would much rather have someone serving on this committee who is committed to making a recommendation based upon facts, than someone who is making unsubstantiated claims about 30,000 jobs being created. Please let me know what material unsubstantiated claims Jim has made?
If bringing commercial service to Briscoe would cure all of the economic problems in Gwinnett, that would be great. The facts just don't support that supposition. Please don't forget that the same people who are pushing commercial service at Briscoe are the same ones who pushed the Braves Stadium. When glossing over the fact that the Stadium costs rose $19 million after construction was already underway, Gwinnett Visitors & Conventions Bureau Board Chairman Richard Tucker said, "You adjust to it and you do it. In this case, they are public funds, so we are even more careful." Bert Nasuti said, "In the long-term, it's going to bring more money to Gwinnett County then it's ever going to cost." They promised, "There's going to be a highly designed mixed-use development that will surround the stadium. Those kinds of things will bring in a lot of revenue to the county." (Have you seen the kudzu covered empty lots surrounding the stadium?)
When things did not go as promised, taxpayers were told, "The stadium is an asset to the community. It was meant to add to the quality of life more than to generate income for the county." How many people in Gwinnett County, believe that 737s at Briscoe will "add to the quality of life" in our county?
What facts support the claims that 20,000 to 30,000 jobs will be created at Briscoe? How well did privatizing Collins Hill Golf Course work out for Gwinnett taxpayers? How well did the trash plan work out that resulted in multi-million dollar lawsuits? Remember the claims that were made for the Cash for Clunkers program? Remember all of the jobs that were supposed to be "saved or created" by the federal stimulus plan? What about the auto bailouts and the bank bailouts? Does your wallet feel better because of those programs? If adding a commercial airport was the answer to economic woes, every community in the country would build one. When the economy was booming, why did every airport that entered into this program since 1997 fail? Do you believe that in this economy, suddenly Gwinnett County will be able to do what no one else could do?
Albert Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Gwinnett County cannot afford any more fiscal insanity.
Hi AnnaRobertson: You said that the posts about something that could be positive are so nasty and mean spirited. You also suggest that people wait until we see something concrete. What you may not realize is that Jim Reagan and Gaye McNeil have spent countless hours researching this issue and they know from past experience that citizens of Gwinnett cannot afford to wait until our commissioners go ahead and make a decision about commercialization. By then, it will be too late. Jim and Gaye have well documented independent research to support their position. Those who support commercial service at Briscoe have made outrageous claims that have no basis in fact. Why do you think this will be positive? Do you remember the Braves Stadium and all of the jobs and economic development that taxpayers were promised? Do you remember the rezoning of the property next to the Catholic Church for a waste transfer station? Do you remember the land deals that were made by our commissioners who promised us that they were saving the taxpayers money? Do you remember the trash plan that resulted in multi-million lawsuits and was ruled unconstitutional? Do you believe the completely unfounded claims that 20,000 to 30,000 jobs will be created by a commercial airport? Do you believe that home values near the airport will increase, as commercial service supporters claim? Do you know Jim Regan and Gaye McNeil? Jim is a quiet accountant most people would love to have as a neighbor. Gaye McNeil is a retired teacher who is one of the most loved teachers ever to teach in Gwinnett County. Do you really think that they have devoted countless hours of their time to this just so that they can be insulted and vilified by people who don’t even know them? No, they are doing this because they have the facts to prove their position and they are not willing to sit back and allow another taxpayer funded debacle in Gwinnett County that will make the land deals and the Braves Stadium look like child’s play. Have you noticed that those who attack Jim and Gaye don’t provide any research to support their position? They don’t because they can’t. When will Fly Gwinnett Forward come forward with research to show that sound insulation in a home increases its value? When will they explain why Propeller claims that 20,000 to 30,000 jobs will be created? When will Fly Gwinnett Forward come forward with research to support their claims that this will be positive for Gwinnett County? Jim and Gaye and thousands of others are waiting for the answers.
Paula: You said, "Fly Gwinnett Forward was formed to apply facts and logic to issues surrounding Briscoe Field." Please provide the facts to support claims of 20,000 to 30,000 jobs and a $1.25 billion economic impact from commercial service at Briscoe. Please provide the facts to support your claim that commercial service at Briscoe will increase property values for nearby homes. You also said, "Regarding taxpayer risk, we understand that lease obligations, performance bonds, and revenue streams could not only benefit, but protect our citizens." Please explain how the taxpayers will benefit, when the FAA requires the continuous operation of the airport by Gwinnett County in the event of default by the private operator, and not one airport has been successfully privatized under this FAA program since 1997. In this economy, are you so confident that performance bonds will protect taxpayers that you will personally co-sign the contract, pledging all of your personal assets?
Hi MomTo3: I find it interesting that those who support changing Briscoe to a commercial airport keep telling those who oppose it that they can just move. Is that what you plan to do if the commissioners ever propose something with which you don't agree?
How is it that you determined that Gaye is in the minority on this issue? Is your source for this so-called fact the same source that claims that 20,000 to 30,000 jobs will be created by commercializing Briscoe? Is your source the same source that claims that sound insulation in a home is a home improvement and that having a commercial airport next to your home will INCREASE your property value? Is your source the same one that shamefully exploited desperate job seekers by falsely giving them hope that thousands of high paying jobs were available if only the commissioners would vote to allow commercial service at Briscoe?
When has Gaye ever yelled and when has she ever said that no one else deserves to be heard?
Jan: You missed one important fact. If two private businesses were competing for the opportunity to get the contract with T-Mobile, one would not have the authority to prevent the other from getting county approval to have the cell tower constructed. Gwinnett County prevented the Penningtons from getting the needed approvals to enter into a contract with T-Mobile and then negotiated a contract at a higher cost to T-Mobile than what was being discussed with the Penningtons. T-Mobile stated that they were willing to pay more to have access to other government properties. A private business would not have this negotiating "edge". I'm not sure what point you were trying to make about Republicans. All Gwinnett County commissioners are Republicans.
I have a great proposal for the City of Suwanee and the Gwinnett Chamber of Commerce:
Why don’t we settle the lawsuits for you by agreeing to pay the damages to Settles Bridge Farm, if you will agree that the school will be built in Lawrenceville and the “second Atlanta airport” will be built in Suwanee? Because the taxpayers in Gwinnett County, including those who live in Lawrenceville, are forced to pay the Gwinnett C of C a large sum of money each year, I believe they owe taxpayers an explanation for their support of the commercial airport in Lawrenceville.
Could someone from the Gwinnett Chamber of Commerce please explain to me why preventing a school from being built in Suwanee is considered “preserving the community” and “saving our neighborhoods” so that residents will not “go nuts”; but opposing the “second Atlanta airport” in Lawrenceville is “standing in the way of progress” and residents who don’t want 737s flying over their homes are considered “nuts”?
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