I think the question here is, Is society better with or without this dude? I choose without. Judging from the news articles I think the police acted in an appropriate manner. What does it say when your own mother wants you put in jail? I have dealt with drug addicts and they are dangerous no matter how loving and sweet their family says they are. They are unpredictable and will do just about anything to support their addiction. I'm assuming the police told him to stop then he got in his truck and tried to flee. He hit a parked car and then an officer. Police tried to tase him and it didn't work. That sounds like someone who is dangerous and unpredictable. I think killing him was the last option they had available. I expect the cops to stop this dude from getting away plain and simple. I don't want this monster out on the streets with me and my family. This guy had a simple choice to make and he decided to make the wrong one. It doesn't matter what he was wanted for. The simple fact is that he was wanted. Whether you are a murderer or speeder you need to give up when the cops order you to.
Bad guy dead, all the hostages safe, and one police officer with a minor gunshot wound? That's better than Hollywood's best movie script. I'm glad I live in Gwinnett where they have competent public safety.
Self-defense? He was in fear for his safety? Seriously? He left the security of his home, went outside, and unloaded his pistol into a car that was pulling away from his house. Taking all those facts in account, would a reasonable person think they were in danger? I'm sorry, but this is not self-defense. I guess the next time the neighborhood kids come to my door selling stuff for school I can unload my 9mm on them? Again, he was inside his locked house and the other guys were in a car that was moving away from his house. Where is the danger?
I got an idea! How about we all keep the bible and religion out of this? This is about the 2nd Amend. and balancing it with modern day common sense. Would the founding fathers agree with legality of owning a military assualt rifle capable of carrying 30 rounds or more? However these men did see the value in having armed citizens. Seeing how a bunch of untrained farmers had just beat the worlds biggest military superpower I could see why they saw the need for the 2nd Amend. After WWII we learned one of the reasons the Japanese did not invade the West Coast even after our very own Army Chief of Staff said the US would not be able stop the Japs until they reached Chicago. Can you believe it was because of the Japanese perception of US citizens. They thought every American owned a gun and knew how to use it. Obviously that is an incorrect perception, but by just having an unrestricted 2nd Amend. we gave an invading Army reason to pause.
One difference with George Bush, he just happened to be visiting an elementary school on 9/11. Those children were not intentional props. Hitler and Stalin used children to great effect in pictures and movie news reels. I guess Obama is reverting to his socialist roots.
I read the AJC article that had the Chief of Police commenting that he was friends with this guy outside of work. That explains why he was able to keep his job and not demoted after his first "indiscretion." The Chief likes to promote personal friends over better harder working cops who are more deserving. He also has a double-standard when his personal buddies get in trouble! It amazes me how Kelly was not promoted straight to Assistant Chief after this!
I'm sorry, but you folks need to read this story more closely. The police officers did not arrest this dude for carrying a gun. They arrested him for tresspassing. The security guard is acting on the behalf of the City of Sugar Hill. If the security guard asked this guy to leave the park and he did not then that is tresspassing. The police officers had to act in that case. The officers also called a judge and confirmed they could arrest this guy. It is apparent the police officers did everything correct in this incident. Unfortunately they were dragged into a mess by this gun carrying guy and the security guard. The law is clear on this one. If you ask someone to leave your property and they refuse then that person is guilty of criminal tresspass. It appears Proescher was looking for a confrontation and baited the security guard. My question why is Proescher (Forsyth County resident) using a Sugar Hill Park?
Suwanee Police obviously only paid attention in the police academy when the topic writing speeding tickets came up. Aren't they supposed to search these people before they haul them to jail?
Veryconcernedcitizen 1 week ago on Mom called cops to year's third officer-involved killing
Mom called cops to year's third officer-involved killing
I think the question here is, Is society better with or without this dude? I choose without. Judging from the news articles I think the police acted in an appropriate manner. What does it say when your own mother wants you put in jail? I have dealt with drug addicts and they are dangerous no matter how loving and sweet their family says they are. They are unpredictable and will do just about anything to support their addiction. I'm assuming the police told him to stop then he got in his truck and tried to flee. He hit a parked car and then an officer. Police tried to tase him and it didn't work. That sounds like someone who is dangerous and unpredictable. I think killing him was the last option they had available. I expect the cops to stop this dude from getting away plain and simple. I don't want this monster out on the streets with me and my family. This guy had a simple choice to make and he decided to make the wrong one. It doesn't matter what he was wanted for. The simple fact is that he was wanted. Whether you are a murderer or speeder you need to give up when the cops order you to.
Veryconcernedcitizen 1 month, 1 week ago on Firefighters rescued, suspect dead in standoff
Firefighters rescued, suspect dead in standoff
Bad guy dead, all the hostages safe, and one police officer with a minor gunshot wound? That's better than Hollywood's best movie script. I'm glad I live in Gwinnett where they have competent public safety.
Veryconcernedcitizen 3 months, 3 weeks ago on Attorney: Driveway murder suspect assumed he was in danger
Attorney: Driveway murder suspect assumed he was in danger
Self-defense? He was in fear for his safety? Seriously? He left the security of his home, went outside, and unloaded his pistol into a car that was pulling away from his house. Taking all those facts in account, would a reasonable person think they were in danger? I'm sorry, but this is not self-defense. I guess the next time the neighborhood kids come to my door selling stuff for school I can unload my 9mm on them? Again, he was inside his locked house and the other guys were in a car that was moving away from his house. Where is the danger?
Veryconcernedcitizen 3 months, 3 weeks ago on Son suspects bar overserved father before hit-and-run spree
Son suspects bar overserved father before hit-and-run spree
could this be murder if he was intentionally ramming cars?
Veryconcernedcitizen 4 months ago on Obama unveils biggest gun-control push in decades
Obama unveils biggest gun-control push in decades
I got an idea! How about we all keep the bible and religion out of this? This is about the 2nd Amend. and balancing it with modern day common sense. Would the founding fathers agree with legality of owning a military assualt rifle capable of carrying 30 rounds or more? However these men did see the value in having armed citizens. Seeing how a bunch of untrained farmers had just beat the worlds biggest military superpower I could see why they saw the need for the 2nd Amend. After WWII we learned one of the reasons the Japanese did not invade the West Coast even after our very own Army Chief of Staff said the US would not be able stop the Japs until they reached Chicago. Can you believe it was because of the Japanese perception of US citizens. They thought every American owned a gun and knew how to use it. Obviously that is an incorrect perception, but by just having an unrestricted 2nd Amend. we gave an invading Army reason to pause.
Veryconcernedcitizen 4 months ago on Obama unveils biggest gun-control push in decades
Obama unveils biggest gun-control push in decades
One difference with George Bush, he just happened to be visiting an elementary school on 9/11. Those children were not intentional props. Hitler and Stalin used children to great effect in pictures and movie news reels. I guess Obama is reverting to his socialist roots.
Veryconcernedcitizen 11 months, 1 week ago on Gwinnett police corporal charged in prostitution sting
Gwinnett police corporal charged in prostitution sting
I read the AJC article that had the Chief of Police commenting that he was friends with this guy outside of work. That explains why he was able to keep his job and not demoted after his first "indiscretion." The Chief likes to promote personal friends over better harder working cops who are more deserving. He also has a double-standard when his personal buddies get in trouble! It amazes me how Kelly was not promoted straight to Assistant Chief after this!
Veryconcernedcitizen 11 months, 3 weeks ago on Employee points to "culture of bigotry" at animal shelter
Employee points to "culture of bigotry" at animal shelter
Really I could care less about the animal shelter or what goes on there.
Veryconcernedcitizen 1 year ago on Gun-toting park patron files suit against police, security guard
Gun-toting park patron files suit against police, security guard
I'm sorry, but you folks need to read this story more closely. The police officers did not arrest this dude for carrying a gun. They arrested him for tresspassing. The security guard is acting on the behalf of the City of Sugar Hill. If the security guard asked this guy to leave the park and he did not then that is tresspassing. The police officers had to act in that case. The officers also called a judge and confirmed they could arrest this guy. It is apparent the police officers did everything correct in this incident. Unfortunately they were dragged into a mess by this gun carrying guy and the security guard. The law is clear on this one. If you ask someone to leave your property and they refuse then that person is guilty of criminal tresspass. It appears Proescher was looking for a confrontation and baited the security guard. My question why is Proescher (Forsyth County resident) using a Sugar Hill Park?
Veryconcernedcitizen 1 year, 2 months ago on Gun intercepted at Gwinnett jail
Gun intercepted at Gwinnett jail
Suwanee Police obviously only paid attention in the police academy when the topic writing speeding tickets came up. Aren't they supposed to search these people before they haul them to jail?