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GUEST VOICES: Which country is it? That's debatable

Which country is it? That's what's debatable

In a world where nothing is at all as it seems, it is no wonder that the discussions of the presidential and vice-presidential debates went the way that they did. Not in so much as who won or who lost, or which political party gathered the most momentum from the debates, but more so what country were they actually talking about?

Were they talking about that country that the Democrats claim that we live in or were they talking about the country that the Republicans claim that we live in? Were they talking about a country whose future is just about to turn the corner to "oh happy days," or were they talking about a country whose darkest days are still ahead of us? Were they talking about a country where the unemployment rate is as low as it has been in years or were they talking about a country that has more people out of work than ever before?

Were they talking about a country whose foreign policy tactics are based on one miscue after another which has caused our nation's posture and world standing to be in a nose dive or were they talking about a country who is walking in goosestep with our many allies yet hold a firm fist toward those who are our enemies? Are they talking about a country who is prepared to walk out of Afghanistan and Iraq based on a "job complete" mentality or are they talking about a country who knows that when the last pair of American boots break contact with the soil of those two areas, the proverbial you-know-what will hit the fan; and all that has been accomplished will be lost in short order?

Are they talking about a country where the population is firmly behind one candidate or the other or are they talking about a country where its people are forced to side with one candidate or the other based on no other options? Are we talking about a country that thinks that it is not the government's role to legislate morals or are we talking about a country that thinks that those moral decisions should be mandated and that the enforcement of moral decisions should come before anything else -- even if it means that the overall political platform might be victorious with some give and take?

Are we talking about a country that thinks that our borders should be open to all with open arms or are we talking about a country where those same open arms should be repositioned in a manner that serves as a backstop to reinforce and support fences to keep others out? Are we talking about a country that ranks in an embarrassing position as to the educational level of our children when compared worldwide or are we talking about a country that thinks that the unionized contract of "low or no" performing teachers is the more important point in our educational policies?

Are we talking about a country that uses the term "swing state" because those states are the catalyst of pushing the vote one way or the other or are we talking about a country that uses the term "swing state" to designate which states will be bombarded with millions of dollars of negative campaign ads, political smearing and a message that has little to do with how decisions should and could be made in an informed and truthful, factual manner?

Are we talking about a country whose political system is near the brink of being incompetent based on political divide or are we talking about a country that continues to finger-point rather than pinpoint resolutions to narrow that divide?

Are we talking about a presidential and vice-presidential debate that truly was an avenue of driving their points home in a straightforward, honest and factual basis or are we talking about a debate that was made up of mistruths, jaded statistics, interruptions, awkward laughter, rudeness and about everything else that you can imagine that may be common in some places but most certainty not in a debate? And will we ever again have a debate where the moderator makes no difference as to which side actually wins and is not the highpoint of the evening ... as some have reported as of late?

Will we ever have any chance of seeing two candidates square off in a debate that leaves us at the end of the day with that ammunition needed to make an educated and well-informed decision as to who we think should lead our country? Will we ever have a debate where the winner is based on what the candidates actually say and not what the pundits say that they said?

Is this the country that recognizes what national debt really means: We are spending more money than we produce? Or is this the country that changes the definition of debt to make it less critical and more accepting of a position that should never be accepted and is deserving of nothing but criticism?

And, more than anything else, is this the country that will ever have a national debate, that really matters, about one of the most important decisions that we have the great freedom and right of making, when so many throughout the world do not even have the option? Or is this the country where no one really cares anymore?

That, my friends, is the most debatable point of all!

Stan Hall is executive director of the Gwinnett Sports Commission.

Comments

JV 1 year, 6 months ago

“Productiveness is your acceptance of morality, your recognition of the fact that you choose to live–that productive work is the process by which man's consciousness controls his existence, a constant process of acquiring knowledge and shaping matter to fit one's purpose, of translating an idea into physical form, of remaking the earth in the image of one's values–that all work is creative work if done by a thinking mind...”

— John Galt Atlas Shrugged (Part 3, Chapter 7)

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Stu 1 year, 6 months ago

I'll tell you what kind of country it is. It's a country where a pro-Republican foundation is placing billboards in African American neighborhoods trying to scare residents out of voting by threatening to bring voter fraud charges against them. Very classy, huh? Just when you think the Republicans can't stoop any lower in their drive to win at any cost -- can you say Willie Horten? -- they prove us wrong.

Given the fact that brave African American and white activists gave their lives not that long ago to win African Americans the right to vote, the folks behind this belong in a special circle of hell. You really wonder how they can look themselves in the mirror, especially since real cases of voter fraud are rarer than lightening strikes. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for voter intimidation.

Luckily, it looks like this tactic, like so many other ham-handed GOP stunts, is backfiring. It turns out that the folks who live in the targeted neighborhoods don't take kindly to such blatant intimidation. Thanks for the boost to the African American get out the vote effort, Mitt!

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JV 1 year, 6 months ago

And the left only agrees with the 1st Amendment when it suits them. From WMTV Madison, Wisconsin:

The son a state Senator was attacked while trying to stop someone from stealing his Romney/Ryan yard sign. He was wrestled to the ground by two persons, held down by a constricting chokehold, and struck repeatedly about the face and head. He nearly passed out from the chokehold and suffered contusions to his face and eyes.

Now that's a real class act eh?

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Jan 1 year, 5 months ago

I'll see your one anecdote and raise you ten+ http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151045192727470&set=a.41728267469.63669.639582469&type=1&theater Of course, you cannot prove an idea with such limited anecdotal evidence as is common among conservatives.

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jack 1 year, 5 months ago

But proving ideas with limited anecdotal evidence is common among liberals!

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Jan 1 year, 5 months ago

Definitely an area of bipartisanship. The only groups worse than politicians trying to use anecdotal evidence to prove an idea is the talk show pundits, bloggers and columnists.

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JV 1 year, 5 months ago

More than enough proof for what some left wingnuts are planning,

Obama Supporters Continue Threats To Riot, Assassinate Romney despite the issue garnering a significant amount of media interest as well as the attention of the Secret Service, Obama supporters continued their threats to riot and assassinate Mitt Romney if Obama loses

http://www.infowars.com/obama-supporters-continue-threats-to-riot-assassinate-romney/

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Jan 1 year, 5 months ago

So your source is Alex Jones? [This is what Wikipedia says][1] about Alex Jones. Definitely not an unbiased source. We do know that President Obama has received more death threats than any other president in the history of the USA which is not surprising with so many idiot pundits telling blatant lies trying and arguing that he will destroy the Constitution and America cannot survive 4 more years of Obama. When I see t-shirts with blatant racist slogans, I am concerned that it could inspire a racist nut to think it would be heroic to attempt an assassination.

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jon... about Alex Jones

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JV 1 year, 5 months ago

Okay another source if it pleases you. Now what does wikipedia say about Catholics?

Hundreds -- if not thousands of tweets threaten violence against Romney

http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=48169

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Jan 1 year, 5 months ago

Since I was not familiar with the site, I read several articles on the site. In my opinion, this site is run by businessmen that want to present themselves as Catholics. I found several factual errors and a distinct right wing prejudice. Having pointed that out, I do believe that the writers are convinced that numerous tweets have been written expressing some desire to do Romney harm, however, without the text of the tweets, one cannot judge how threatening such were. The vast majority were probably people just venting because they are tired of the right wing machine that has attempted to misrepresent Obama with vicious lies. Real threats would not come from a traceable source such as twitter.

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JV 1 year, 5 months ago

The tweets are shown on the infowar website. They have been publishing them for a number of days now.

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