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Propeller asks for delay of airport vote

Rendering provided by whyprivatizebriscoe.com

Rendering provided by whyprivatizebriscoe.com

LAWRENCEVILLE — Brett Smith, the CEO of Propeller Airports, is asking the Gwinnett County Board of Commissioners to postpone its scheduled Tuesday vote on the privatization of Briscoe Field.

Smith held a press conference Monday outside a hangar at the Lawrenceville airport. He asked the BOC to delay its vote because “200,000 citizens from one entire district of the county are not being represented,” the product of District 1 Commissioner Shirley Lasseter’s abrupt resignation amid federal bribery charges last week.

At the very least, he asked for the company’s proposal to be made public.

“As everyone here knows, this process has been going on for the better part of three years, with a non-stop change in elected officials,” Smith said. “There is no pressing need to vote (Tuesday).”

A recommendation from the Gwinnett Department of Transportation, posted online last week as part of the agenda packet for Tuesday’s Board of Commissioners meeting, blasted the heretofore confidential proposal from Propeller — the only one received by the county — and recommended its rejection.

The recommendation said that “while proposal included a sufficient team of subcontractors ... it provided only minimal detail for the operation, development and planning for Briscoe Field.”

Smith contested that assessment, referencing the roughly 700-page documents he held in his hand Monday.

“I can assure you that everything that they asked for was put in the proposal,” he said. “I wouldn’t have spent four years working on this to leave stuff out. These proposals are as good as they get.”

He called the item’s placement on Tuesday’s BOC agenda, worded as a vote on an “approval to reject” the proposal, premature and poorly thought out.

“I’m not even allowed to talk to (commission members),” he said. “The commissioners unfortunately haven’t even seen our presentation.”

County spokesman Joe Sorenson wasn’t sure if the commissioners had seen anything but the Department of Transportation’s recommendation. He said there’s a possibility the board could table the motion at Tuesday’s meeting. It could, of course, vote one way or another as well.

“But one way or another, the Board will address the item on the agenda tomorrow,” Sorenson said in an email.

Chairwoman Charlotte Nash could not be reached for comment.

Smith also proposed a county-wide referendum on the issue. Sorenson said the county would not have the authority to initiate a public vote — it would likely have to come down from the state legislature.

Proponents of both sides of the privatization argument weighed in Monday.

“I think we could see a 4-0 vote on this (Tuesday), and that would mean that (Lasster’s) vote would not have actually made a difference any way,” said Sabrina Smith of Gwinnett Citizens for Responsible Government.

Added Larry Yates, representing Citizens for a Better Gwinnett: “If you want to build an airport, go somewhere else where there is no community ... Don’t come into our neighborhoods to build an airport that’s full of noise pollution and truly a lot of disruption.”

Yates called Smith’s declaration of concern for all of the county’s voters to be represented “balderdash.”

Jimmy Norton of Fly Gwinnett Forward, a local pro-privatization group, issued a statement Monday calling a November referendum the “most appropriate way” to resolve the issue.

“This action would allow adequate time for the citizens to properly analyze the proposal on its own merits,” Norton said, “and enables all of the voting citizens of Gwinnett County to make an informed decision on this matter via the ballot box.”

Smith urged that Propeller’s proposal at least be made public before a vote was taken.

“I know that people are nervous, but if you don’t know what something is, of course you’re going to be nervous,” he said. “That’s why everybody needs to see it.”

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

No, actually they need the time to go through all those resumes they collected in 2011...

SURELY, somebody lives in District1 that they could support for the "short term" - right?

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BevL 1 year, 10 months ago

The county staff's recommendation should be the guide for the BOC along with all the report presented by the Citizens Review Committee. The vote should take place on Tuesday.

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notblind 1 year, 10 months ago

I REALLY like that rendering of the proposed airport. Notice how the horizon curves away and you don't see all the houses and businesses directly at the end of the runways ?? That's exactly the amount of concern they have for those property owners. ZERO !

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

Because they were bought out or lost out due to some type or form of eminent domain ...

One of the never ending, unforseen cost "overruns" the residents of Gwinnett would be on the hook to pay for.

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Reason 1 year, 10 months ago

Horse Squeeeze. Rap it up now! My district was not represented when the weasel was gone. Come to think of it, it still wasn't represented when he was serving on the board fro way too long, either. End this scam PRONTO!!

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nojim 1 year, 10 months ago

Her district was not being represented before she resigned.

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wethepeople 1 year, 10 months ago

Hold on a bit Mr. R., why would I "trust" the BOC or the planning department which reports to the BOC tto make ANY DECISION when the entire lot is under the scrutiny of Danny Porter's department? Regardless of the merits of Propeller's proposal, the question needs to be brought before the ENTIRE community on the November ballot as to whether the MAJORITY of the citizens want a commercial airport or not. That's the question. If the answer is yes, then a more rigorous and thoughtful selection and negotiation process with no political baggage attached could and should move forward.

I think that's why we call this a democracy and not a dictatorship!

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

It seems your democracy includes doing business with criminals, liars and deceivers.

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BufordToo 1 year, 10 months ago

Your remarks are pathetic and completely disrespectful. I said, "bring this to a vote so that the process precludes any BOC member or planning department employee from being influenced by criminals, liars and deceivers.

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

It's like voting on an issue of someone who's been caught red-handed of crime - Why bother? They're not worthy, they lack the moral character. Their history is an insult to the community. There is so much money involved that they will spend millions on media to spread the misinformation we've spent 2 years addressing. Where do you think this money comes from? South of the border maybe. Shirley Lasseter's son was said to be a landscaper. Does that mean he raised a smokeable crop? We know he flew into Briscoe with what he believed to be cocaine.

That is what you're defending.

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

Remember back BEFORE Chairman Nash was elected and the Chairman's seat was empty? We asked THEN to put it on the ballot and were told NO - it couldn't be done! So if they put it on a ballot now the current serving members of the BOC lied at that point in time.

If the vote is taken and the result is a 2/2 split, then its not about facts at all...
IF we need a "90 day wonder sub" to vote it in - IT'S not worth the heartache.

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BufordToo 1 year, 10 months ago

In order for this issue to come before the voters in November, Gwinnett County's state legislators or the Goverrnor must make a recommendation. And, since Delta owns the lot, this ain't going to happen any time too soon. So, frankly, this whole thing of the public expressing it's own opinion is null and void. So much for the democratic process whether you are for or against commercial traffic into Briscoe.

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Cleanupguy 1 year, 10 months ago

One more time - we're a Republic and NOT a Democracy. You get to vote for leaders that make these sorts of decisions on your behalf. The 10% turnouts that we usually get for elections don't say much for us, though.

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NewsReader 1 year, 10 months ago

Thank you Cleanupguy! I don't know how many times you have to tell these imbeciles this!

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

Cleanup up guy - check the orgin of the Republic concept. Where did it begin and why. Look in the declaration of independence and constitution. Then note it shows up in the Pledge of Allegience as written by whom?. I think you'll find room for differing opinions and opportunity for constitutional amending.

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

When elected officials enact laws supported by the people the people are self-imposing the regulatiion and the need for enforcement is minimized. When elected officials eneact laws the people oppose the door for anarchy is opened.

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

If you had served in Vietnam, as I did, you might embrace your rights more dearly and not be so willing to advocate / delegate representation. District 1 has produced 2 criminals back to back. I don't think the representative government concept is working too well. We've had more resignations-in-disgrace that Terms honorably completed.

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

The staff have been accused of being borderline insubordinate so the control is weak - if the commissioners are truthful.

But alas, the RFP response has been reviewed by 2 OUTSIDE consulting firms with far more than 4 years in the business ... They reported heartburn too. When will we stop shocking the corpse and let the doctor call the time of death?

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pcjohn 1 year, 10 months ago

You need not worry about Porter's "scrutiny". That effete prosecutor is blind to illegality or malfeasance by commissioners and cops.

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166LZU 1 year, 10 months ago

Wow! Brett Smith must be a student of WWII - because he's going out kamikaze style (Fly Propeller/Gwinnett Forward Into Oblivion). Propeller has provided their proposal to CBS46 - in direct violation of the RFP which says...

"Prospective respondents should note that direct contact with Airport or County employees and officials is prohibited during this competitive process except for official Information Meetings or as defined in paragraph below of this document. Moreover, all such contact must be in compliance with applicable Georgia law and local procurement ordinances."

"Contact with the County through any other means may result in the Respondent’s disqualification from the competition process.... Proposals submitted are not publicly available until after award by the Gwinnett County Board of Commissioners in accordance with Georgia Law and County Ordinance."

So, now their proposal is (all but) rejected AND they should be disqualified. Not exactly a career building move on his part. Propeller should never be on anyone's approved supplier list as a result of these antics.

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pcjohn 1 year, 10 months ago

166LZU - Great info !! Thanks. Now let's hope that the powers that be follow their own rules.

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jljustis 1 year, 10 months ago

Propeller Investments has no place playing politics. They have submitted their proposal. Stay out of the process. Mr. Smith should not be trying to influence the voters of Gwinnett. He should not pretend that he in any way represents citizens from the First District. If Mr. Smith disagrees with the review by the County, he must take this to court. Mr. Smith, where is your financing? Where are your airlines? Where is your business plans? What do SPLOST funds have to do with your proposal? Go to court.

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

Seeing is not believing. I don't believe for a minute that Propeller will ever live up to their proposal. Secondly, at the 11th hour they are suddenly concerned about a more democratic process - a public referendum. I think maybe they have Delta and Hartsfield-Jackson money behind them. Isn't that what they said? Or maybe they're backed by a crime syndicate that wanted to import drugs through Briscoe Field. Shirley Lasseter may know something about that.

Lets sell them the county jail. It's seems better suited to their talents.

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jljustis 1 year, 10 months ago

Go ahead and table the vote. Put this under legal review for violation of the contract process. Mr. Smith overstepped his bounds going to the court of public opinion in this matter. He has the right to challenge the county review in court; but, not in the court of public opinion. Once the county has determined that the contract process has been legally violated by Propeller Investments, disbar the company from participating in future contracts.

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CLawrenceville 1 year, 10 months ago

Bret Smith has acted totally unprofessional right from the get go. A professional would submit his bid and then wait to see if it was accepted. Mr. Smith has no business meddling in Gwinnett politics. He has no business in asking that the vote be delayed. Last I looked, this was our county, not Mr. Smith's. After reading all the information that has been compiled by the aviation professionals and the recommendation from the DOT that this proposal be rejected, I don't know why we are wasting one more day on this. When push comes to shove, every aviation professional came up with the same conclusion-Briscoe should not be a Regional Airport. Not one of them felt that this airport would have any chance of success. The only ones that seem to see anything good in this, is Mr. Smith, who would financially benefit from it and the Fly Gwinnett group that just doesn't want to drive to Hartsfield. Sorry people, you don't physically and financially destroy a county for your own benefit. Think Marta, goes straight to the airport.

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

Smith urged that Propeller’s proposal at least be made public before a vote was taken.

“I know that people are nervous, but if you don’t know what something is, of course you’re going to be nervous,” he said. “That’s why everybody needs to see it.”

Brett we AREN'T nervous but mad as HE!! YOU on the other hand are most likely PLENTY nervous and rightly so, because it JUST doesn't work!

Finally Brett...... you are...... a borderline Fraud

(imho)

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BufordToo 1 year, 10 months ago

Jeez R and company, your comments have been wonderful reading and quite humorous. Now that the airport is dead, what's next on your agenda? Surely you guys have to vent on something else.

Let me suggest you look at the misuse of County property by its employees. Since when is every employee entitled to a county vehicle for personal use. Look around Jackson, Hall and Barrow counties and you'll see County cars parked in residential driveways. Now, I know they are there on "official business" using your tax dollars to pay for that commute. Plus, I'm sure the County issues 1099s at the end of each year. Right? Who said public employees are underpaid. Not here in Gwinnett that's for sure.

If you want to really get riled up, how about addressing the free ride by all those airplanes landing in and out of Briscoe. They need to pay a LANDING FEE. If you think about it, you have less than 200 private aircraft owners enjoying the benefit that the rest of us are paying for their private airport. And, believe me, the hangar fees are nominal along with the ad valorem tax being paid each year.

So what's next . . . the stadium, the environmental impace of the Mall of G, the rec department gone wild, the bloated school district board, the gestapo police force, the zoning board that corrupt, etc.

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Cleanupguy 1 year, 10 months ago

Quick - look over there! Ummmm - I believe that the Propeller Fellers were promising around HALF of the NET REVENUE that Briscoe currently EARNS for the county, and that many of the tax "burdens" upon them (Propeller) were to have been set aside. In other words, the proposal openly recognizes LESS income and not MORE, with taxpayers making up the difference - not sure what the benefit is there.

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Blessed1 1 year, 10 months ago

I still cannot get the County to explain the need/benefit of using a consulting group since 1986 to serve as the County's Community Development "arm". This lucrative contract has been renewed several times, yet the County's historical community development and affordable housing track record pales in comparison to communities in Georgia that have actual Community Development departments. I have asked when the County last reviewed this arrangement and how this benefits the residents of Gwinnett County, but this has been met with silence.

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

Buford Too, sounds like you need to speak with Tommy Hunter about your concerns.

As to a landing fee, I doubt we need to partner with Propeller that sublets hire a French firm to collect one... But I leave that commentary to the Citizen Board report.

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Cleanupguy 1 year, 10 months ago

So now that Lasseter's out and the playing field is more level, the Propeller Fellers suddenly want the public to vote on this instead of the BOC. I assume that means that they figger the public is even dumber than the remaining commissioners and can be easily swayed by a marketing campaign (queue up the standard Teepee rhetoric). Very most likely that would be a correct assumption (see Bannister, Kenerly re-elections, etc.). Their other option would have been for Propeller to "back" (read as "buy") Laurie McClain (of Fly Gwinnett Foward fame) for District 1 Commissioner - gross conflict of interest, anyone? Great catch, 166LZU !

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JET 1 year, 10 months ago

I am appalled at the behavior of the citizens who are against the airport. I have witnessed first hand the blatant lies and the ever increasing denigrating comments. Propeller Investments has a sound plan for Briscoe Field, the people who have been in support of the changes to OUR county understand what this could bring to everyone here. I applaud Propeller and Fly Gwinnett Forward for their strong resilience to the way they have all been harassed, belittled, & disrespected. I do hope that it is tabled, and that it is put to a citizens vote.

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Dubbin 1 year, 10 months ago

Blatant lies? How about stating that this airport will generate 18,000 jobs and make the county money? Even their own proposal shows no ROI for 4 years, tax exclusions for Propeller and totally bogus fuel revenues. No, I'm afraid the blatant lies are all coming from Propeller and Fly Gwinnett Forward. But why worry about misleading the public when there's money to be made right?

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Katrina 1 year, 10 months ago

If the plan is so sound, then why did two separate consulting groups advising the Dept. of Transportation say that it is NOT a sound plan? Why did two other consulting groups say that this plan will NOT succeed? Are these separate consulting firms all in collusion? As for denigrating comments, those of us who are opposed to Propeller's plan have been called "hysterical" over and over again. As for "blatant lies," why don't you name a few of these so-called lies, instead of just slinging mud?

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

Sound plan to take our cash for 4 years ... and fly away

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Katrina 1 year, 10 months ago

Exactly--suck as much money out of the project as possible and then dump the airport back on the taxpayers.

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

Glad you don't like it. You keep kissing those behinds.

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docfinder1 1 year, 10 months ago

REALLY? Blatant lies by those who appose it??? How about from those who support it. Every underhanded tactic you can imagine. Even those in the Dacula are most affected by the new airport have basically been yelled at by their Comm. It's out there on video if you care to see it. Every bunch of people are going to have some crazy people who claim to be part of the whole, especially an issue as passionate as this one. If you look at every single post out there from those against this move, you will find thousands of words of common sense questions posed, and often left unawnswered. Go on Dacula patch or this web site, and look at the posts in the comment section. People ask some really good questions, but those for this fiasco constantly try to attact the character of those against it. JET....where do you live? If you live in Dacula, or anywhere around the airport where your property value is going to be effected, and you are not appalled by the treatment we have received from the BOC and Propeller, than you must be a renter, or simply do not have a clue about how this will effect the quality of life in our area.

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NewsReader 1 year, 10 months ago

The interesting thing about people that want to engage in unethical and self-serving behaviors is that they have no conscious and for every time they get slapped down, they will repeatedly come back for more until they eventually get what they want and get just enough votes to push it through. They are very patient. And once they push it through, it will never go away like the nasty little virus it is ~ all leaving the rest of us holding the bag and dealing with the consequences that benefited them. We are sick and tired of having to fight this nonsense. I want a vote by the BOC, and I don't want even a remote reconsideration again for the next 20 years.

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CD 1 year, 10 months ago

Anyone casting a vote in favor of this today needs to provide an explanation to the citizens for their vote. There is zero justification to vote in favor of this. Hold your commissioner to account for their decision.

I still miss Teepee somewhat.

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Katrina 1 year, 10 months ago

Absolutely! What possible justification could they come up with? If my commissioner (Mike Beaudreau) votes yes, I'd love to hear him 'splain himself!

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

Gwinnett County and Briscoe Field is not open for Drug Smuggling. Privatizing an airport is an excuse to collect corporate welfare.

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teelee 1 year, 10 months ago

Airport? We don't need no stinking airport. Let's continue to be the number one county in Georgia for home foreclosures, personal bankruptcies. Who cares that thousands of empty homes and businesses in Gwinnett County providing insects and rats with a good home. Who cares if the public bus system is barely used and losing money. Who cares if the Gwinnett Braves can't make a profit. Just because a regional airport with limited flights could generate 300 million dollars a year and create jobs, who needs it? The last thing we would want to do is allow some commercial flights next to the noisy Highway 316 or the busy train tracks that run next to Briscoe Field. Seriously folks, I have never seen such a spectacle in my life like I have with this proposed airport expansion. Briscoe Field could be the best little regional airport in the country, something we could all be proud of if people would all start working together. Hartsfield-Jackson continues to grow, they just added a new International terminal and they are raking in a billion dollars a year. The future of aviation is still good and Gwinnett is the perfect location for a regional airport that would help relieve pressure at the world's busiest airport and it would support our sports teams, concert venues, public bus system and shopping malls. This is about the nearly one million residents and business owners that live and work in Gwinnett, not just the 300 hysterical Lawrenceville residents that pack the courthouse shouting ridiculous things. I predict the county will blow this golden opportunity to actually create jobs, excitement and prosperity for the number one in home foreclosures county in the state of Georgia. The once fastest growing county in the country has become the fastest declining county in the country in many many ways.

Gwinnett County is still number one in home foreclosures in the state of Georgia.

Gwinnett County is still number one in home foreclosures in the state of Georgia. by teelee

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

II don't believe Brett released this because it demonstrates the holes wonderfully. cbs46 website http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15638341/SOQ_FINAL_8_16_2010.pdf

Brett claimed 700 pages, this release has 293. The file is dated 8/16/2010, not the same year as the current RFP response so I doubt there would be grounds to disqualiy on its release, SURELY, he made a more recent file for 2011 formal RFP response.

Basically they have the vision to develop SOMETHING GOOD with all their partners or subcontractors …

The skill sets don’t directly belong to Propeller

Page 18

Propeller Airports Briscoe Field, Inc. (PA) is aware of the RFQ stated requirements for advising the County of any additions or deletions to the technical team. The PA Private Operator team named in Section A has extensive experience and the financial capability to plan, develop, manage, and operate the air carrier airport to benefit the citizens of Gwinnett County and surrounding areas.

PA fully expects to call on the expertise of various attorneys, accountants, insurance specialists, and others as part of the preparation of proposals and negotiations. However, these specialists may or may not serve as part of the on‐going operation of the firm and airport operation. It is also fully expected that overall staffing of the firm and operations will grow as the complexity and level of activity of the airport changes and grows.

The exact dimension or timing of that growth is not known at this time.

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D3.0 FIRM FINANCIAL STATEMENTS In as much as PA was formed specifically for this project we have no audited financials available.

D5.0 FIRM CREDIT RATING PA is not currently rated by any of the nationally recognized credit rating services as PA was recently formed for this project. Therefore, there is no "credit rating" as the term is typically used. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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While detailed studies remain to be completed, Propeller Airports Briscoe Field (PA) expects the conversion of the airport from a business/corporate general aviation airport into one with commercial service as well, serving the entire County and beyond. The redevelopment process will initially generate hundreds of construction related jobs, provide much needed infrastructure, and ultimately provide thousands of jobs. Finally this project will increase the area tax base through added economic activity.

Seriously? A glorified contractor with no financials promises thousands of jobs through his subs – that are subject to change.

The bulk is resumes repeated several times and over half of it is the French firm brochures .... and a lot of pictures of planes, of France .... interesting.

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

Bret Smith is practicing Proposal writing 101.

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

if so the 51 was the grade

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majtaj 1 year, 10 months ago

Yeah, it's the perfect location, just as long as you are not one of the tens of thousands of people who live in the area.

$300 million a year? LOL! Where would that come from exactly?

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CD 1 year, 10 months ago

Now I feel better. I have two words for you, Teepee: Shirley Escobar.

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Cleanupguy 1 year, 10 months ago

Good gawd, Teepee - do you never tire of cutting and pasting the same inane drivel time after time? You are an embarrassing idiot of the greatest magnitude - spouting hot button throw-away comments that bear zero relationships to all known facts. Gwinnett was a distant #2 choice, no carriers are interested, the planes proposed cannot actually land or take off with full loads of passengers and fuel, Proponent Propeller Fellers have only proven able to manage bankrupcies, prohibitive costs are guaranteed to be borne by taxpayers, NEVER successful aywhere else EVER, and the sign photo you provided is the typical "after" and not the "before" shot. There has been no hysteria - perhaps you need to get out more. Cocaine rakes in trillions a year, so according to your logic, maybe Gwinnett should go that way instead.

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rco1847 1 year, 10 months ago

TeeLee - Gwinnett county also has more homes than most Georgia counties. Of course were going to have more foreclosures you idiot.

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jack 1 year, 10 months ago

And wouldn't the resulting drop in home values near Briscoe conceivably lead to even more foreclosures?

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darflyboy 1 year, 10 months ago

Why can't the BOC make a financial decision instead of a political decision? Hopefully, the remaining commissioners will be voting without " a financial incentive". Frankly, I really do not trust any of the commissioners any longer. Gwinnett County government is corrupt (and possibly inept)! Exactly how much do the Gwinnett County citizens benefit from the Gwinnett Braves stadium?

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roaads1 1 year, 10 months ago

Need to allow the citizens of Gwinnett decide at this point.

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majtaj 1 year, 10 months ago

That would be "two wolves and a lamb deciding what to eat for dinner."

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

We did we screamed about our pocket books and got a 4-0 in FAVOR of preventing the raid into them...

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Geezer 1 year, 10 months ago

Strange how the people supporting this airport change opposed a decision by referendum until Shirley L. got busted by the Feds for among other things offering to sell her vote on the airport.

Shirley L. stated she would roll over on other elected public officials for a lighter sentence.

If I were a BOC member, I would think long and hard about everyone I have talked to and everything I have said and every benefit I have received from PI, even it it is just a meal. A vote fot the airport proposal closes the loop on quid pro quo for bribery.

The BOC members would be smart to vote against the measure. Otherwise I have a feeling they are going to be spending a lot of time and money talking to the FBI and IRS afterwards.

This has made national headlines and it will not go away like a lot of the deals that past BOC members have made in the past.

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wethepeople 1 year, 10 months ago

The County would be best served by 1) hiring a full time CEO administrator, 2) ousting all existing and current BOC members regardless of how many years they have left to serve and 3) adopt a rotating citizens board of 10 member that would be unpaid and serve for a total of 2 years with no ability to run for re-election. The Citizens deserve better than they current intellectually dishonest public officials.

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Dubbin 1 year, 10 months ago

Let us know when you get the state legislature to approve your plan. Personally I just wish the citizens would WAKE UP and quit voting for all the same old politicians and actually have the guts to elect some people who may have a northern accent or (horrors) actually have some real business experience. Quit electing good ole boys (and gals) and you'll quit getting good ole boy politics.

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R 1 year, 10 months ago

psst - the sitting commisioner in district 3 is from up north ... you got your wish...

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Don 1 year, 10 months ago

Amen is all I can say for the no vote. I think every one of the sitting BOC knew what they needed to do today to keep their seat.

Oh what is Teelee going to do!

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