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Garbage hauler invests in CNG fleet for Gwinnett

LAWRENCEVILLE -- One of Gwinnett's major trash haulers is going green.

Advanced Disposal, which is in charge of garbage pickup for more than 50,000 households in Gwinnett, recently broke ground on a compressed natural gas fueling station, which will allow a fleet of garbage trucks to run on clean energy.

CNG, as the fuel is known, is about half the price of diesel fuel, produces half the noise and generates low hydrocarbon emissions, reducing the fleet's greenhouse gas emissions by 23 percent, company officials said.

Plus, it reduces the country's dependence on foreign oil.

"CNG is cleaner than diesel, and is also greener, cheaper and abundantly found in our soil - well, rocks if you want to be technical," said Charles Carroll, Advanced Disposal's corporate director of maintenance, said in a press release.

With 27 trucks on order and a fueling station in Ball Ground under construction, officials hope to begin running routes using CNG by the end of the summer.

"We believe you can't put a price tag on clean air, so we're doing all we can to keep the Atlanta area clean and green for generations to come," said Charlie Gray, regional vice president for Advanced Disposal.

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Jan 1 year, 9 months ago

Though I applaud the decision, I am not so naive to believe they are doing it just to cut emissions. With the tax advantages for the necessary going green equipment, lower fuel taxes and half price fuel, this was a financial decision. I do hope other garbage companies follow their lead soon.

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R 1 year, 9 months ago

They all went "green" as soon as the consent order was "approved" in 2010.

Sign here and we promise NOT to sue you personally, your estate or your family... The county? who cares about them they'll pay and PAY BHRAHAHAHAH!

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nicholson 1 year, 9 months ago

This decision is the way it should be - let the free market find other sources of energy to develop and be competitive, and not the government mandating & funding what "green energy" sources to develop (like Solyndra, Chevy Volt), which have been failures.

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Don 1 year, 9 months ago

So who is getting the energy credits for doing this, the county or Advance?

I thought one of the big reasons that the county awarded WastePro the first contract was their clean energy trucks? What ever happened to their trucks as I have never seen one of them around the county.

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R 1 year, 9 months ago

Just don’t plan on using this fuel terminal as a reason to be a sole supplier at the end of the period when the current consent order expires. This program exists as a shining example of why commissioners’ ability to commit the county to binding LEGAL consent agreements exceeding their terms of office should be curtailed.

Gwinnett will one day RETURN to a free market of sorts, because we grow weary of paying TWICE what the surrounding areas pay for the SAME level of service a YEAR in advance…

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CD 1 year, 9 months ago

R--have to respectfully disagree on this one. Gwinnett will not return to a free market for the citizens regarding trash pickup. Once a program or tax is in place, it just never seems to go away. There is just too much money sloshing around in this case for that to occur. The Heathens added roughly 1/3 to the general coffer by doing this. They will not give that up.

If Mikey boy is voted out, then maybe I'll see a path to a free market, but I am not sure the citizens of the district understand just how out of touch the little guy is so that it will make enough of a difference.

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R 1 year, 9 months ago

Alas CD you may be correct, but I still hold out hope at this point in District 3 as there's just TOO much noise this election cycle.

Republicans against OBAMACARE but support a “trash” version of it locally – what’s a conservative approach again?

However, since the county offered a rather small set of seniors a break that was paid for by INCREASING fees (Or is it a penalty?) on others within the county, the government didn’t lose a dime of its income in the “successful” program’s transaction did they?

That does pretty much make the case they INTEND to keep it just like the original plan forecasted – next 2 companies, then down to just ONE Supplier County wide.

If this is in fact the case, trash expense at TWICE the rate of the surrounding areas is the LOWEST price we will EVER see, it only goes UP from this point on because our government has NO incentive to reduce cash flows collected for itself from the serfs, er pardon, the residents.

Didn’t we ban banks from using the “ extended float model” to make money just like this one a few years back?

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Don 1 year, 9 months ago

Just look at how much the county makes off of the service or handling this is why they will continue with the current system. We the citizens do not have a vote on this just the BOC. We need to get some BOC members that actual do what the peole that voted them in want.

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DB 1 year, 9 months ago

AD is doing a very fine job in our neighborhood. They are 'advanced' like the name says.

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CitizenX 1 year, 9 months ago

And guess who gets to fit the bill for this new fueling station? Bet my right arm the citizens of Gwinnett County will pay for it. The BOC will find some excuse to raise the fee to help offset this boondoggle. Great for the environment, horrible on taxpayers.

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NewsReader 1 year, 9 months ago

I tolerate Sanitation Solutions because I have no other choice. I hate their service. I hate their attitude. And if it were up to me, they would be fired tomorrow. It's garbage! How "fine" does it have to be?

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R 1 year, 9 months ago

Tolerate implies YOU have a choice.

Fine should mean businesses perform at LEAST 5 to 10 points better than what was the norm before, if you pay TWICE as much...

The last survey demonstrated that there was really NO service improvement over the previous method in place.

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Jan 1 year, 9 months ago

Your conclusion shows a lack of understanding of surveys. Surveys get peoples opinion, not facts. I did not analyze the data from the survey, but the most that possibly could be draw from it is that people perceive no improvement in service, on the average. Fact: They take fewer holidays, therefore, in this aspect, they are giving better service. I am getting better service than I had before, though - since I was getting senior discount - at a slightly higher price. I do believe we need some better negotiators for the next contract renewal. Someone that will penalize a company that has undue complaints that are not resolved. Someone that is willing to consider reducing the number of companies servicing the area if it can reduce costs and improve service. We need someone that is willing to set a fair price and any company that doesn't except will be replaced with one that will.

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nicholson 1 year, 9 months ago

Isn't that the beauty of the free market system - we can negotiate for ourselves and not have to depend on a government bureacrat to "deal" on our behalf? We had the ability to change companies if we were unhappy with the service. We had the ability to shop pricing. I can do those things myself, thank you. Reducing costs and improving service are never going to happen with the government managing.

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Jan 1 year, 9 months ago

One person negotiating with 6 or 8 companies has much less negotiating power than an agent for 250,000 homes. Add to this the reduced cost of fee collection for the garbage companies and a guarantee of all house on the route giving reduced per house cost to the company, and we should see significantly lower costs than an individual could achieve. We need all the complainers of the system to vote out those that will not negotiate as a consumers advocate. We need to vote out everyone that is getting campaign contributions or perks from garbage companies.

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nicholson 1 year, 9 months ago

The logic about negotiating power works in private industry, not government. Your math doesn't add up because I and many others are paying more now for service than before. You forgot to add the government's admistrative "fee" which is a tax that we didn't have to pay before.

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R 1 year, 9 months ago

Jan why did our rates DOUBLE and remain higher than surrounding areas?

The govt has no plans to reduce our costs at all as they profit from the pool of funds collected a YEAR in ADVANCE, proven by the path chosen to implement the limited senior discount that only a few will actually get. This clearly allows the county government to do all sorts of little "give mes" to others out of MY funds.

Gwinnett has CLEARLY proven it CAN'T or WON'T get lower prices in mass as I was able to get on my own for a single residence, for which I DIDN'T pay a YEAR in ADVANCE to receive.

(Should be even LOWER with this maneuver)

Sorry this successful plan is NOT conservative government in action at all.

The Board should have simply told us they needed the cash flow to keep a triple A bond rating - it would have been closer to the truth.

Just like the crap deal on a cell tower relocation from a private resident's land to that of the county.

Sorry but I DON'T believe paying DOUBLE to get "as good as" I had before on a service a bargain...

Since this whole ordeal began because an ESTIMATED 20K of homes had no verifiable service, now that its in place - have we collected from EVERY residence or is there still a SHORTAGE of about 10K of households who DIDN'T pay the fee this year still on the county's books as outstanding?

Supporters - Please ask the board where we are as a county in status of FULL compliance and collections...

You may be surprised in the reply - if you get one at all.

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R 1 year, 9 months ago

As far as complaints the county call center is CLOSED more often than needed. We are often advised to call carriers direct as noted by regular announcements here ...

So If I complain to the carrier what good does it do? (Smiles cause it aint getting counted)

As to trash being collected on Holidays some might consider THAT demeaning as it isn't a EMS function (as in life protection) - Sorry I believe working people should get some time off.

I've NEVER had a trash truck respond to 911 call of shots fired nor would I expect to.

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R 1 year, 9 months ago

The really sad part about this issue is the same geniuses that negotiated this negotiate and approve fleet purchases… Oh wait they DON”T, the purchasing team negotiates on the county’s behalf first before approvals…

I wonder why the BOC didn’t do that in the BEGINNING here with the trash plan? Remember, you can indeed legally get away with ANYTHING as terms in a civil agreement. Even bypassing things that under NORMAL government policy, controls and regulations in place at the time could NEVER have been done legally.

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nicholson 1 year, 9 months ago

R, I totally agree with you on the bewilderment at Republicans that are against Obamacare and yet are for the county government take over of the trash program. These programs both promote big government and yet these supposedly conservative folks have the Beaudreau signs in their yards. Last month at a debate for the commission candidates in Dacula, (which the GDP didn't bother to report on), Beaudreau was asked by another candidate how he could call himself a conservative and yet push through the plan. Beaudreau, taking a page out of the Obamacare spin book, responded that since some people had abused the previous free market system by illegally dumping trash, it was necessary for government to takeover in order to be fair to everyone, just like Obama saying the same thing about the uninsured abusing health care costs. In fact, Beaudreau then went on to label the previous free choice trash system as "socialism", saying that everyone was having to pay for a the illegal dumpers, when in fact, that is not the definition of socialism, and could have been dealt with in other less draconian ways.

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Mack711 1 year, 9 months ago

We have noticed that illegal dumping still continues to this day. Just take a look around on some of the 'back roads' and you will find it. As fro Beaudreau well he needs to go as well and we all need to elect folks who will listen to us and do as we, the taxpayer, want. We had lower cost for this service before government steped in with their solicialzed garbage system. One question will the use of CNG lower cost of the carriers doing business? If so does this mean a reduction in our taxes? probably not!!!!

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