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Nearly 50 guns stolen in smash-and-grab

DACULA — Burglars made off with nearly 50 firearms during a smash-and-grab early Saturday morning at a gun retail store in Dacula, officials said.

A report from Gwinnett County Police Department states that officials arrived at the business about 2 a.m. to find the front door smashed open. Upon entering and speaking with the owner, it was determined that 44 rifles and pistols were stolen and one pellet gun.

An employee of Big Gun Armory said that the burglars triggered the alarm. The business also had surveillance video running but that they were currently diagnosing problems with recovering the footage.

Employee and co-owner Tyler Keifer said that the burglars “were in and out in a matter of four minutes…they busted through the front door, reached in and unlocked it.”

The owners got a call from the alarm company, as did Gwinnett County Police.

Keifer said it was an estimated $100,000 loss to the business. He said that guns included tactical .22 pistols, shotguns and other types of firearms.

According to the police report, crime scene investigators took pictures and dusted for fingerprints.

No suspects have been arrested in the incident. Those with information about the burglary should contact police at 770 513-5000.

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MichelleCouch 1 year, 3 months ago

Shouldn't higher-risk businesses like this one be required to have additional security measures in place (by city/county ordinance)? Such as retractable steel bars beyond the glass front? Special/similar requirements are in place for liquor stores, adult material stores, adult entertainment businesses. Even the UPS Store in Grayson has a retractable security system protecting it's printers/copiers as it offers 24-hour access to its mailbox customers. You would think a gun shop owner would have exercised better security measures.

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JohnnyQ 1 year, 3 months ago

So we blame the Shop owner, and not the criminals.

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MichelleCouch 1 year, 3 months ago

In no way does my post imply "blame" toward the shop owner. However, it does suggest that the shop owner should have taken greater responsibility in protecting his/her high-risk inventory from theft; not only for the public's safety, but for the business's best interest as well. You can bet this business owner is looking at a higher liability premium now!

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FordGalaxy 1 year, 3 months ago

And if the shop had been robbed with those "additional security measures" in place, what then? Would you say that he should've done even more?

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NewsReader 1 year, 3 months ago

"...be required..." MichelleCouch? Uh...NOPE!

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dudley4141 1 year, 3 months ago

The shop owner was plain stupid for not having better security measures in place so this could not have happened. Why werent the guns locked away in their vault at night? Thats right, this maw and pop place never thought about that......I've got their sign and you know what it is....

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rco1847 1 year, 3 months ago

Guess What? These guns are already in the hands of criminals and will likely stay that way. This is just the begining of their criminal career. I just think guns are wonderful and can only lead to a better future. The more we have the more the crooks will have. Nowdays they can get them when they want them just about anytime and anywhere. The 2nd amendment has been used as an excuse for a domestic arms race.

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FordGalaxy 1 year, 3 months ago

Gun crimes are most often committed using stolen guns, or illegally purchased guns. The countries that have disposed of firearms have only taken them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. Criminals will get guns if they wants guns. And I'd prefer to have access to a gun to defend myself, rather than not having that access, then having to wait for the police to show up to identify my body and notify my next of kin.

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rco1847 1 year, 3 months ago

Guns should be like cars. Licensed owners with periodic renewal requirements. Inspectiions, Liability and other insurance. Proof of insurance and a law enforment insurance policy so local law enforcement can file a claim against the insurance if that particular gun is used in a criminal act.

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notblind 1 year, 3 months ago

Far more people are killed by cars than by guns. So explain to me how effective drivers licenses are at preventing wrecks.

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BurritoJones 1 year, 3 months ago

Guns aren't used on a daily basis by the vast majority of the populace. If they were used as often as cars, you'd probably see an uptick in accidental deaths.

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R 1 year, 3 months ago

@ BJ At least you DIDN'T dispute driver licensing, but IF you’re not in our country legally well that's just "different"...

Who knows, if we did we might just drop those “rates” EVEN more - Hmmmm

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badhat 1 year, 3 months ago

What's wrong with you? Should we be required to get some form of training? That's not that bad of an idea, maybe a weekend course on safety.... but they'll have to pry my guns out of my cold dead hands before I let an idiot like you disarm me.

Are you just looking for ways to waste taxpayer money?

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gwinnettresident1 1 year, 3 months ago

You need get the he&* out of Georgia and go back some liberal state...I have never heard such a bunch of crap come from one persons mouth. My guns have never left my house by themselves and have never killed anyone. Some have been like that for 50 years now....Perfect Guns...We need to find and arrest the people or persons involved and make the punshiment to them worthwhile....dont slap their wrist.. We can keep playing with criminals and continue to blame guns for the problem...

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R 1 year, 3 months ago

Gun laws should be enforced to the same extent as our border policies…

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StinknBadges 1 year, 3 months ago

It wasn’t a high capacity SUV as it only holds 5 tires.

Woman rams SUV into teen over Walmart parking space

Ga. woman hits teen in dispute over parking space by Associated Press

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R 1 year, 3 months ago

Outlawing Duallies now are we???

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realworld 1 year, 3 months ago

So, rco1847, I suppose you expect those thieves that stole these guns are really going to license what they stole?? And even registering a gun just proves you own it, it doesn't prove you committed a crime with it, so what is your point?

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Mack711 1 year, 3 months ago

Read on another page that the Fire Marshall told the owner that he had to replace the inside key lock with a manual turn lock. They smashed the ourside window and turned the inside lock to gain access. If that is the case the Fire Marshal should share some of the blame. When the doors are open for business they are unlocked when the business is closed then the doors are locked,with a key on both sides. Now the criminals have more fire power than the Police.

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Why_not 1 year, 3 months ago

The issue with the deadbolt lock is part of the life Safety Code which is the most widely used code by fire departments nationwide....no blame should be directed toward the Fire Marshal for enforcing adopted codes.

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gwinnettresident1 1 year, 3 months ago

If the doors have to stay unlocked during business hours what difference does the inside key lock on the deadbolt make...dont get it.

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Why_not 1 year, 3 months ago

Because after business hours, there could still be people inside the business. If a safety code is adopted, you can't pick and choose what provisions you want to apply versus those you don't.

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Mack711 1 year, 3 months ago

Yes if they are in there after hours they are thieves and do not have any business in there.

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FordGalaxy 1 year, 3 months ago

Mack, no ofense, but that's a bit shortsighted. I work at an office with business hours of 9am to 5pm, but my shift is 7am to 4pm. Just because "business hours" are either over or not yet started and I'm in the office does not make me a thief.

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Mack711 1 year, 3 months ago

You are correct. however do you stay there until 2 or 4 AM? probably not. Like you what most business owners think is one hour before and on after 'Public" business hours is business hours. While you are there after "public" business you are conducting 'private' business. Thanks appreciate your response and correction.

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FordGalaxy 1 year, 3 months ago

No problem. I meant no offense, just seeking to clarify. And for the record, I have been here until 4am before. When a customer wants a project done, we hang in and get it done. We're crap the next day, but we get the work done.

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Award88 1 year, 3 months ago

Yes, let's blame the business owner and not the criminals. That just makes so much sense. It is the same with the Newtown shooting. We blame guns instead of the criminals. Start placing the blame where the blame is due.

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news2me 1 year, 3 months ago

These people that are focusing on the small business owner / law abiding citizen are the same people that say .........

It is virtually imposible to locate and deport 15 million ILLEGAL ALIENS (Criminals) ... BUT we want to confiscate 300 million guns from LEGAL CITIZENS

SMH

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badhat 1 year, 3 months ago

After a school massacre in Australia they passed a law to disarm it's citizens and take away 640,000 firearms at a cost of over $500 million. How much do you think it will cost to take away our 300 million firearms? Also, ever since Australia disarmed it's citizens, crime has been slowly increasing and the criminals still have their guns. How surprising is it that only the law-biding citizens turned in their guns while the criminals kept theirs?

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Jan 1 year, 3 months ago

Check all your facts - homicides per 1000 are down and violent crimes with guns per 1000 are down. A lot of factors cause the crime rate to go up or down. With increased crime rate, one would expect homicides and crimes with guns to increase. Since the opposite is true, we have strong evidence that gun control has been effective in Australia in a relative short period of time. The controls that are being suggested should not interfere with sportsmen's ability to enjoy their hunting. Most agree that the gun show loophole should be plugged and assault style weapons and large capacity clips should be outlawed. Of course these will not stop mass shootings but it will limit the ability of psychotic killers to get their hands on this type of weapon. Passing a training course will not stop all accidental shootings but proper safety instruction will reduce the number. Just teaching gun owners how to shoot greater accuracy will help. The bullet that misses the deer is dangerous for over a mile for any other hunter/hiker that might be in its path.

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Award88 1 year, 3 months ago

Hey Jan. The gun that was used in both Aurora and Newton, a .223 caliber rifle, would not be legal deer hunting rifles. Why? Because they are not powerful enough. Second let us not forget the primary reason for the 2nd Amendment. It is to provide a last resort mechanism for the people to protect themselves against government tyranny. James Madison in the Federalist Paper no. 46 explained that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to allow for the defense of the people, by the people and for them to be able to form a militia should the need to forcefully remove an oppressive government arise. He was clearly talking about military style rifles, which today would include firearms like .223 rifles. Additionally, the so called gun show loop hole is a crock. "Closing the gun show loophole" means passing a law that forbids the sale of any firearm by an individual to another individual. Meaning my dad could not sell me a firearm legally, because he does not have an FFL. In regards to your suggestion to ban "large capacity clips", 2 points of contention. First what is to stop a criminal like this shooter from simply utilizing 3- 10 round magazines versus a 30-round magazine. A proficient shooter can change magazines in under 3 seconds. At best with 2 magazine changes you have bought the victims and responding police an extra 6 seconds. Let us look at some facts shall we. Since WWII every mass shooting incident, with more than 3 victims, as occurred in gun free zones, with the exception of 1. When police officers have to respond to mass shooting calls, the average number of victims is 18.25. When a law abiding citizen with a firearm is the first to respond the average number of victims is 2.2. And you sited Australia, but let's also talk about the UK and Japan. Both have seen major spikes in violent crime rate since passing firearms laws. Japan has had such a major spike that now less than 50% of all violent crimes are currently being prosecuted. And why does nobody ever point out the gun violence in Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, all countries with very strict gun laws, all countries with very high crime rates.

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JV 1 year, 3 months ago

Strict gun laws in Great Britain and Australia haven't made their people noticeably safer, nor have they prevented massacres. The two major countries held up as models for the U.S. don't provide much evidence that strict gun laws will solve our problems.

All this statistical and factual information isn’t going to mean anything to Lefty’s but it is always good to know that reality backs up the conservative position on gun rights and the 2nd Amendment.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

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Jan 1 year, 3 months ago

JV: I previously explained why the statistics to which you refer are misleading. Let me add that comparing all crime to gun violence is like comparing apples to oranges. To others, it isn't just the mass shootings that we should be able to reduce but also the accidental shootings and homicides. While it is the mass shootings that bring our attention to gun control, the number killed in this are minor compared to the accidental shootings that result in death. I am still waiting for anyone to attempt an explanation how we can defend ourselves from a tyrannical government armed with missile armed drones and tanks with rifles. Face it. If the second amendment does not give us the right to these weapons (or even switch blades in some states), then any attempt to "defend ourselves from a tyrannical government" is a suicide mission. I researched some of the "statistics" cited by some bloggers here and could find no reliable source to support most of them. Most references were anonymous bloggers. If you cannot verify stats from a responsible site, then they are worthless. Anecdotal evidence is also useless. I did find one incident where a "private citizen" stopped a probable mass shooter, turned out he was retired from law enforcement, hence technically a private citizen. I found another case where a private citizen drew his concealed weapons and was shot multiple time for his effort. Just suppose that you are armed in a darkened theater and someone starts shooting. As you draw your gun and look around, you spot someone with a gun. How can you tell the difference between an accomplice of the shooter and someone else trying to help with their concealed weapon?

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TAK 1 year, 3 months ago

So your defense is what...lay on your back and expose your belly like a frightened animal and hope for mercy? Pathetic.

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Award88 1 year, 3 months ago

Ahh...but you failed to respond to my reply on your last comment. I actually explain in there how the 2nd Amendment was original intended for private citizens to have access to the same type of weapons as the government.

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jack 1 year, 3 months ago

"I am still waiting for anyone to attempt an explanation how we can defend ourselves from a tyrannical government armed with missile armed drones and tanks with rifles."

The Afghanis have done surprisingly well against Russia and the United States. The Syrian rebels are holding their own despite no tanks or air force. I also remember reading something about an ill-equipped group of determined men defeating the most powerful nation in the world at the time, and establishing a free country.

I find it sad, that if confronted with the loss of your freedoms by a tyrannical government, you would capitulate so effortlessly.

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TAK 1 year, 3 months ago

If this is not an inside job it is certainly a suspicious crime. Glass front door has a non-key turn type deadbolt? Security camera has a 45 minute delay? Thieves that take the time to open a glass case instead of just smashing it? I'm sure GCPD will be looking at the financials and insurance claim of the owner.

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NewsReader 1 year, 3 months ago

Why don’t you check all your facts Jan? “…homicides per 1000 are down and violent crimes with guns per 1000 are down…” Source? “…Most agree that the gun show loophole should be plugged and assault style weapons and large capacity clips should be outlawed…” Source? “…Passing a training course will not stop all accidental shootings but proper safety instruction will reduce the number…” No person in the State of Georgia can obtain a Hunting License unless they have taken and passed a Hunter Safety Certification Course established by the Georgia Department of Natural Resources for any person born after 1960 (I think that’s the correct date). Better, yet, why don’t you just move to one of these places so you can feel and remain more safe? The United States of America is such a dangerous place for you to live in! And if you and Obama have your way, it will become much more dangerous.

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Don 1 year, 3 months ago

Jan I guess you are much wiser than the US Supreme Court on the 2nd amendment. I ask you to read their rulings in the last four years when this was presented.

Here is a link to some Australia crime stats.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

So a gun store was robbed due to the fact that the fire code requires easy exit from a building, that is fine during operating hours but when a store is closed anyone in there should have the opportunity to burn to death.

So is this theft any worse than the "Fast and Furious" debacle by the Obama administration? Oh, that is right we will never know how many guns they sold illegally to Mexicans since Holder will not testify. I am willing to bet it was more than 100!!

Jan I do like your pix (rock), maybe you should go crawl and hide under it.

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JV 1 year, 3 months ago

“I researched some of the "statistics" cited by some bloggers here and could find no reliable source to support most of them. Most references were anonymous bloggers.”

This source link uses information from media reports all over the U.S. It is published and updated on a regular basis. Don is right. Jan needs to crawl back under “its” rock.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/BlogList.aspx?cid=25&id=21

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Jan 1 year, 3 months ago

Don: I previously talked about the problems with the stats from the NCPA site. JV: When your source is an extremely biased site that tries to prove a point with anecdotal evidence, it is worthless in an intelligent discussion of the issues. If I trust biased anecdotal evidence, then I will be glad to find serial killers that eat eggs for breakfast to prove to you that people that eat eggs are serial killers. Of course this is just as absurd as using your anecdotal evidence as real facts.

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R 1 year, 3 months ago

Akin to banning ammo holders of 8 or 9 because they are more deadly than a holder of 5...

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JV 1 year, 3 months ago

You are the bias one. Did you even pay attention to what is posted on the link? News articles from newspapers and TV stations from all over the country. The linked site is merely posting what the media publishes. And you call that "biased anecdotal evidence" then babble about eating eggs.

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Jan 1 year, 3 months ago

JV: Your writings demonstrate a higher degree of intellect than most of the pro gun comment posters so surely you can understand how cherry picking articles to post on the web site can create a false impression of reality. Anecdotal evidence only proves that the editors of your beloved web site have managed to cull from their listings any articles that would support greater control on guns. To make this clearer for those other posters with less intelligence. Google 'accidentally shoots brother', then google 'accidentally shoots sister'. Make a note of how many of these were articles posted in the last week. Now go to the americanrifleman.org reference above and compare the number of sibling shootings in 1 week with accounts where a gun owner claimed the gun aided in stopping a crime. The search by itself is also only anecdotal evidence but with a little more effort I am sure you are smart enough to find sites with the stats that will back up the assertion that a gun in the house has a significantly higher probability of causing a loved one to be the victim in a fatal shooting than that gun actually saving you. Please now put forth the argument that most of the accidents stem from insufficient safety measures which only reinforces my position that safety instruction should be mandatory before a gun license is issued.

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R 1 year, 3 months ago

Just remember to actually read each link and filter OUT all the duplicate returns that list the same AP article or address over and over and over and over…

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Jan 1 year, 3 months ago

Okay, then add to your assignment, google: 'father shoots son', 'Mother shoots son', 'uncle shoots nephew'. Try other combinations and it really becomes shocking as to the multitude of accidental shootings. I even found one that a woman killed her daughter because she thought the small gun was a cigarette lighter, I guess you could contribute that one to the dangers of smoking.

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notblind 1 year, 3 months ago

Your assignment is to google 'home invader shot by homeowner' or 'mugger shot by intended victim' .

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Jan 1 year, 3 months ago

I did, checking the dates of the articles found considerably less of these in the last month. Even tries other combinations of self defense.

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BurritoJones 1 year, 3 months ago

Seeing a lot of lapses in logic in these comments. We need guns because criminals have them. Criminals have them because they steal them. But telling the store owner to buy a decent lock is somehow a bad idea.

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hydroplane 1 year, 3 months ago

Why should this store have doors at all let alone locks? People in this country are guaranteed access to firearms we shouldn't have things like doors or locks holding us back from our 2nd amendment rights. Cost is another barrier that keeps many from owning high powered weapons, the store owner has removed this barrier by making his store easily accessible for those who want these items but do not wish to spend the money on them or be on some government list. This store owner should be given a key to the city (just make sure its tied to cinderblock so he doesn't loose it) for bringing access to these weapons in our community. I will sleep better knowing that all 50k worth of assault weapons are out there in the community keeping us all safe.

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notblind 1 year, 3 months ago

I take it you don't make any distinction between criminals and non-criminals ??? Criminals are just people, right ???

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Don 1 year, 3 months ago

Jan~

A quick copy of the tag line in today's paper:

LOGANVILLE — Authorities say a Loganville woman shot an intruder five times and the man was arrested after he tried fleeing the scene.

here is the link for easy going:

Loganville woman hiding with children shoots intruder by Associated Press

All I can say is she should have had a larger capacity magazine so he would not be hospitalized but lying in the morgue instead.

I hope you do not consider the GDP as a biased paper for printing this!

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Jan 1 year, 3 months ago

First: let me point out once again that anything could be proven if you only use anecdotal evidence. To make this clear, just because it happened once does not make it common. Statistics clearly demonstrate that owning a gun increases the likelihood of an accidental shooting death with it far greater than the chances of saving oneself with it.

Second: let me point out that the only thing this really demonstrates is that proper training should be required to get a permit to buy a weapon. If the man entering the attic had a gun, she and her kids probably would be dead because she didn't have sufficient training in the use of her weapon and he would have probably fired back since she appeared armed. If her weapon had been a double barrel shotgun, then if the first shot had only put him down, he would not consider getting up or reaching for a weapon while they awaited police. If her weapon were a pump shotgun, then she would have only needed to pump it once as he opened the door to the attic. Hearing that distinctive sound, 99% of criminals would flee and she would not have the mess of blood to clean up or the possible trauma to her kids of seeing the man shot.

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JV 1 year, 3 months ago

The perp’s name is Paul Slater and he has a history. He was released from the Gwinnett jail in late August after serving six months for simple battery and three counts of probation violation. Slater has six other arrests in Gwinnett dating back to 2008. There is a photo at this link.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/mother-of-two-surprises-burglar-with-five-gunshots/nTnGR/

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